{"id":2958,"date":"2025-05-04T18:38:38","date_gmt":"2025-05-04T16:38:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/arcticwatch.info\/index.php\/2025\/05\/04\/peter-hadfield-versus-tom-nelson\/"},"modified":"2025-05-12T15:38:39","modified_gmt":"2025-05-12T13:38:39","slug":"peter-hadfield-versus-tom-nelson","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/arcticwatch.info\/index.php\/2025\/05\/04\/peter-hadfield-versus-tom-nelson\/","title":{"rendered":"Peter Hadfield versus Tom Nelson"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<p>This article not directly related to Arctic sea ice, but instead is one of our (very!) occasional series on the psychology of anthropogenic global warming \u201cskepticism\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Peter Hadfield is better known as the man behind Buster Keaton\u2019s face on the \u201cPotholer54\u201d channel on YouTube. Tom Nelson is the \u201cproducer\u201d of Martin Durkin\u2019s \u201cClimate: The Movie\u201d. Peter produced <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/HhAX42dT09w\">a video<\/a> criticising that movie. Many months later Peter and Tom have just recorded a \u201clong-form, man-to-man debate\u201d via Zoom about those criticisms. Here is episode 1 of Potholer\u2019s version of events:<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Debate with Tom Nelson about my criticism of 'Climate: The Movie'\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/UaZuEl2hu9M?feature=oembed\" width=\"604\" height=\"340\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<p>Here is \u201cSnow White\u2019s\u201d hot take on the first 10 minutes of Tom Nelson\u2019s version of events on X (formerly Twitter):<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-conversation=\"none\" data-media-max-width=\"640\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">6:37 &#8220;You&#8217;ve referenced this as (Ljungqvist, 2000). It&#8217;s not actually, it&#8217;s 2010. But that&#8217;s a minor mistake&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>6:46 &#8220;It&#8217;s also not global temperatures, as it says in the title. These are NH temperatures, above the Tropic of Cancer\u2026 But that&#8217;s just another mistake&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Snow White (@GreatWhiteCon) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/GreatWhiteCon\/status\/1919028229815349554?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">May 4, 2025<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>In brief, Tom seems to be incapable of providing a straight answer to a straight question, and instead loudly rails against what he continually refers to as the instrumental temperature \u201cspike of doom\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Can you spot the difference between these two graphs?<\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/arcticwatch.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Ljungqvist-Fig3.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-34510\" src=\"https:\/\/arcticwatch.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Ljungqvist-Fig3.png\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 852px) 100vw, 852px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/arcticwatch.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Ljungqvist-Fig3.png 852w, https:\/\/greatwhitecon.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Ljungqvist-Fig3-300x193.png 300w, https:\/\/greatwhitecon.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Ljungqvist-Fig3-768x494.png 768w\" alt=\"\" width=\"852\" height=\"548\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/arcticwatch.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Nelson-Fig3.webp\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-34511\" src=\"https:\/\/arcticwatch.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Nelson-Fig3.webp\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 510px) 100vw, 510px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/arcticwatch.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Nelson-Fig3.webp 510w, https:\/\/greatwhitecon.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Nelson-Fig3-300x199.webp 300w\" alt=\"\" width=\"510\" height=\"338\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This article not directly related to Arctic sea ice, but instead is one of our (very!) occasional series on the psychology of anthropogenic global warming \u201cskepticism\u201d.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":2959,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"rop_custom_images_group":[],"rop_custom_messages_group":[],"rop_publish_now":"initial","rop_publish_now_accounts":[],"rop_publish_now_history":[],"rop_publish_now_status":"pending","_themeisle_gutenberg_block_has_review":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2958","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-analysis"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/arcticwatch.info\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2958","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/arcticwatch.info\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/arcticwatch.info\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/arcticwatch.info\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/arcticwatch.info\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2958"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/arcticwatch.info\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2958\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2976,"href":"https:\/\/arcticwatch.info\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2958\/revisions\/2976"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/arcticwatch.info\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/2959"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/arcticwatch.info\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2958"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/arcticwatch.info\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2958"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/arcticwatch.info\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2958"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}